Experts Claim Teen's Cries, Not Zimmerman's,On 911 Call

[Whodatmskdman]

Trayvon Martin Shooting: Voice Experts Claim Teen's Cries, Not Zimmerman's, Can Be Heard On 911 Call


George Zimmerman 'Would Go All Nuts,' Former Co-Worker Says

Before George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin on February 26, a 911 call recorded the voice of someone screaming. Whether that person was Martin or Zimmerman -- who police say claimed he was attacked by Martin before the fatal incident -- has been an open question since the calls were released by the Sanford, Florida police department. (WARNING: Above audio is disturbing.)

The Orlando Sentinel consulted two voice experts to try to settle the debate, and both came to the same conclusion: The cries could not have come from George Zimmerman.

One expert, Tom Owen, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman as the source. From the Sentinel:

    "I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else," Owen says.

    The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.

    "As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon's, because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice to compare.

Another analyst came to a similar conclusion using different technology.

The voice analysis is the latest piece of information to cast doubt on the narrative, advanced by Zimmerman and his family, that the Neighborhood Watch volunteer was attacked by 17-year-old Travyon Martin. A police video this week showed no blood or bruises on Zimmerman in the aftermath of the incident, while Martin's funeral director said he saw no signs of a struggle on the teen's body.

[ABDURRAHIMKHALIL]

All Praises Due  to Allah!!!

[mivoyce]

All Praises Due  to Allah!!!

Good News!

[befree1619]

I am kind of worried of where this is going. I want to say EVEN IF Trayvon broke his nose and busted his head  Trayvon was PROTECTING HIMSELF.
Trayvon was being the one pursed by a stranger with a gun and IF Zimmerman suffered ANY Injuries to me that would be consistent with Trayvon defending himself from an aggressor.

[lebraatt]

I am kind of worried of where this is going. I want to say EVEN IF Trayvon broke his nose and busted his head  Trayvon was PROTECTING HIMSELF.
Trayvon was being the one pursed by a stranger with a gun and IF Zimmerman suffered ANY Injuries to me that would be consistent with Trayvon defending himself from an aggressor.

I'm with you ... I'm very wary of where this case is headed.
Also, I don't believe Trayvon put a hand on him, BUT IF HE DID
I'm with you he was defending himself. 

[mivoyce]

I am kind of worried of where this is going. I want to say EVEN IF Trayvon broke his nose and busted his head  Trayvon was PROTECTING HIMSELF.
Trayvon was being the one pursed by a stranger with a gun and IF Zimmerman suffered ANY Injuries to me that would be consistent with Trayvon defending himself from an aggressor.

so what are you afraid of?  the likely sentence of manslaughter vs murder conviction?  nevertheless, zimmerman will be charged by the grand jury and bail will be made.  ... then it's on!

[Miz Bleu]

Why is this case being tried in the media???
All this leaked information will only help the defense.
If Zimmerman is ever indicted for murder/manslaughter the defense will request a change in venue.
A change in venue, without a doubt would alter the outcome of this case.    

[Piru_Red]

so what are you afraid of?  the likely sentence of manslaughter vs murder conviction?  nevertheless, zimmerman will be charged by the grand jury and bail will be made.  ... then it's on!

if that's the case then it won't be "on". zimmerman will just go back into hiding.

[befree1619]

so what are you afraid of?  the likely sentence of manslaughter vs murder conviction?  nevertheless, zimmerman will be charged by the grand jury and bail will be made.  ... then it's on!

Sentence? We are putting the cart WAY before the horse.. he ain't even been arrested.
 What I am saying is we are concentrating on Zimmerman's possible injuries which in my opinion helps the defense because folks are looking for a possible justification for Zimmerman. What if Zimmerman was calling for help.. still doesn't change that he was the aggressor and Trayvon might have gotten the best of him.

[powderkeg]

Trayvon Martin Shooting: Voice Experts Claim Teen's Cries, Not Zimmerman's, Can Be Heard On 911 Call


George Zimmerman 'Would Go All Nuts,' Former Co-Worker Says

Before George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin on February 26, a 911 call recorded the voice of someone screaming. Whether that person was Martin or Zimmerman -- who police say claimed he was attacked by Martin before the fatal incident -- has been an open question since the calls were released by the Sanford, Florida police department. (WARNING: Above audio is disturbing.)

The Orlando Sentinel consulted two voice experts to try to settle the debate, and both came to the same conclusion: The cries could not have come from George Zimmerman.

One expert, Tom Owen, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman as the source. From the Sentinel:

    "I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else," Owen says.

    The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.

    "As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon's, because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice to compare.

Another analyst came to a similar conclusion using different technology.

The voice analysis is the latest piece of information to cast doubt on the narrative, advanced by Zimmerman and his family, that the Neighborhood Watch volunteer was attacked by 17-year-old Travyon Martin. A police video this week showed no blood or bruises on Zimmerman in the aftermath of the incident, while Martin's funeral director said he saw no signs of a struggle on the teen's body.

the question is: can this be used against him in a court of law?

[captivewildwoman]

Why is this case being tried in the media???
All this leaked information will only help the defense.
If Zimmerman is ever indicted for murder/manslaughter the defense will request a change in venue.
A change in venue, without a doubt would alter the outcome of this case.    

It's being tried in the media because it's provocative - and that means Pulitzers and other awards are ripe for the plucking with journalists.

[Piru_Red]

It's being tried in the media because it's provocative - and that means Pulitzers and other awards are ripe for the plucking with journalists.

Just like the oj trial. hell, miss crooked mouth herself, gretta van sustren got her career poppin after the oj trial because of her coverage of it.

[Whodatmskdman]

the question is: can this be used against him in a court of law?

In an indirect most profound manner, all the findings being compiled from all the "experts per field" is almost always what's used to sway any jury's opinion.
Too many experts giving absolute information deterrent to the statements made by Zimmerman "and" the Sanford P.D.

[Mcarlton49ers]

Trayvon Martin Shooting: Voice Experts Claim Teen's Cries, Not Zimmerman's, Can Be Heard On 911 Call


George Zimmerman 'Would Go All Nuts,' Former Co-Worker Says

Before George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin on February 26, a 911 call recorded the voice of someone screaming. Whether that person was Martin or Zimmerman -- who police say claimed he was attacked by Martin before the fatal incident -- has been an open question since the calls were released by the Sanford, Florida police department. (WARNING: Above audio is disturbing.)

The Orlando Sentinel consulted two voice experts to try to settle the debate, and both came to the same conclusion: The cries could not have come from George Zimmerman.

One expert, Tom Owen, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman as the source. From the Sentinel:

    "I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else," Owen says.

    The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.

    "As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon's, because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice to compare.

Another analyst came to a similar conclusion using different technology.

The voice analysis is the latest piece of information to cast doubt on the narrative, advanced by Zimmerman and his family, that the Neighborhood Watch volunteer was attacked by 17-year-old Travyon Martin. A police video this week showed no blood or bruises on Zimmerman in the aftermath of the incident, while Martin's funeral director said he saw no signs of a struggle on the teen's body.

WE KNEW THAT WE JUST NEEDED PROOF

[Mcarlton49ers]

I am kind of worried of where this is going. I want to say EVEN IF Trayvon broke his nose and busted his head  Trayvon was PROTECTING HIMSELF.
Trayvon was being the one pursed by a stranger with a gun and IF Zimmerman suffered ANY Injuries to me that would be consistent with Trayvon defending himself from an aggressor.

AT SOME POINT AND TIME TRAYVON WAS GONNA HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND ASK THIS GUY " WHAT THE FUKK ARE YOU DOING" THATS WHEN WHITE BOI FIGURED HE HAD A REAL GOOD REASON TO FUKK UP THIS YOUNG MAN

ALSO TRAYVON IS THE ONE WITH THE RIGHT TO TAKE A STANCE LAW BACKING HIM UP   HE WAS BEING STALKED
I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHY PPL ARE CALLING THIS A CHANCE ENCOUNTER
THIS WAS NOT TRAYVON NEVER WOULD HAVE MET THIS FOOL

[Mcarlton49ers]

Why is this case being tried in the media???
All this leaked information will only help the defense.
If Zimmerman is ever indicted for murder/manslaughter the defense will request a change in venue.
A change in venue, without a doubt would alter the outcome of this case.    

THEY CAN TRY THIS CASE ON MARS HE WILL GET HIS THIS MAN IS HATED THE WORLD OVER
 EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THIS MAN DID AND WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE  HE'S NOT EVEN SAFE IN PRISON  THIS MAN IS GONNA DIE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER

[gurrlplease]

Why is this case being tried in the media???
All this leaked information will only help the defense.
If Zimmerman is ever indicted for murder/manslaughter the defense will request a change in venue.
A change in venue, without a doubt would alter the outcome of this case.    

it being tried in the media b/c THEY WON'T EVEN FUCKING ARREST HIM. All this shit would have to be under wraps until the trial is over b/c of Florida law

[jenab48]

I am kind of worried of where this is going. I want to say EVEN IF Trayvon broke his nose and busted his head  Trayvon was PROTECTING HIMSELF.
Trayvon was being the one pursed by a stranger with a gun and IF Zimmerman suffered ANY Injuries to me that would be consistent with Trayvon defending himself from an aggressor.

Absolutely! It should not even matter what happend to Zimmerman.  If Trayvon had whipped his azz it would still be Zimmermans fault.  Trayvon had every right to defend himself from this man stalking him and eventually killing him. So if Zimmerman was screaming like a Lark so what?  He could have avoided ALL of this by doing as the 911 opeartor told him..stay in  your vehicle.

[captivewildwoman]

Absolutely! It should not even matter what happend to Zimmerman.  If Trayvon had whipped his azz it would still be Zimmermans fault.  Trayvon had every right to defend himself from this man stalking him and eventually killing him. So if Zimmerman was screaming like a Lark so what?  He could have avoided ALL of this by doing as the 911 opeartor told him..stay in  your vehicle.

As Greg said in another thread, the person hollering would be the one WITHOUT the gun.  However, as you said, it doesn't matter - that POS Zimmerman started all of this by targeting Trayvon in the first place.

[honeycombmmmgood]

I have been reading about this tragic case for the past few weeks and have been asking myself the same question, over and over...where is the medical report? I mean, the way George Zimmerman described the incident, he made it seem as if  Trayvon beat him within an inch of his life. So if his head was bashed, and his nose was broken...why haven't the medical report been released along with the other bullshyt allegations? Am I missing something here?

Whomever wants us to believe that Zimmerman is innocent, needs to ask this...what would be Trayvon's motive to attack him? I guess we're suppose to be that while visiting his father (in a neighborhood he was not even familiar with), Trayvon just decided to randomly attack some dude who was minding his business while sitting in a car. Some dude who was also 100 pounds heavier than he was.  Are we suppose to be that stupid to believe this?

Bottom line is, no matter how well a black child is doing, he will always be deemed as a thug in training. This is why I get so upset with our own people for how some look down on young black men. Being poor and from the hood does not equate to being a gangster. And it also doesn't help how "some people" are  always claiming that most black women prefer thugs. So what does that say? If most black women prefer to be with thugs, then that means that most black men are actually thugs! And we don't think other races of people are not paying attention to that?