Mad Men season 5 returns sunday March 25 @ 9pm !

[moionfire]

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[moionfire]

hi.. how y'all like that sh*t is beyond me.....i  was flipping the channels and happened upon it..at some point i misplaced the remote and was mad as  hell that i coudln't turn.....all that romanticizing of white folks vomit!

What episode were you watching. And how does it romantize white folks??

[Big Fun In Baltimore]

Finally got around to seeing the episode before the season finale (I haven't watched the season finale yet) and it depressed me than I thought it would.  Although I was indifferent about Lane as a character, seeing his hanging corpse made me sad that this was the way that he went out. 

Then again, the more that I think about it, the more that it made sense that this would be his end, as he considered himself too weak a man to deal with the fallout of his actions.  It reminded me of how he fell back in line after his father flew all the way from England to literally beat his ass into submission last season.  A 40-something year old man with the confidence to stand up to his domineering father would have never thought that his life was over after Don found him out, as he'd have taken the (relative) out that he was given to find himself another accounting job at another ad agency.

[Big Fun In Baltimore]

Why Mad Men Hasn’t Dealt Much With Civil Rights
By Kyle Buchanan

If you were expecting Mad Men to devote more time to the civil rights movement after the salvo of season-opening episodes that introduced black secretary Dawn (played by Teyonnah Paris), creator Matt Weiner would like you to keep those assumptions in check. "I feel like the expectation that introducing a black character means you have to tell the civil rights struggle is in a way racist," Weiner tells the Los Angeles Times. "I use her character the same way I use all the characters on the show. She is there. I'm sorry if people were disappointed. Do I regret there wasn't more of it? Yeah. All I can say is, it's early. We have 26 episodes left. I don't feel like in the history of the United States that 1966 was the year of civil rights; it's early."

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The head writer simply doesn't care about white people. I think people just have to understand that. And he hides behind the whole, it wouldn't be accurate to show black people and the civil rights movement, because he claims that white people had a blindspot. But this is hypocritical since most white men also had a blind-spot on feminism, but the show has managed to discuss this topic at length...

[Big Fun In Baltimore]

The head writer simply doesn't care about white people. I think people just have to understand that.

Did you mean black people?

And he hides behind the whole, it wouldn't be accurate to show black people and the civil rights movement, because he claims that white people had a blindspot. But this is hypocritical since most white men also had a blind-spot on feminism, but the show has managed to discuss this topic at length...

I can count the number of times that Mad Men ever depicted Black people on one hand (OK, one hand and a fifth of another):

1. Sheila, the girlfriend that Paul Kinsey brought to a party to show folks how liberal he was.
2. Hollis, the elevator operator that Pete tries to strike up a conversation with a couple of times.
3. Carla, the housekeeper who had to put up with Betty's shit until she got fired.
4. Pete bringing up the idea of Sterling Cooper adding a new advertising demographic to their roster - the Negroes.
5. Toni, the Playboy bunny who Lane was taking up with until his father flew in from London to mollywhop his ass into reconciling with his wife.
6. Dawn, who Peggy wouldn't leave her belongings in the same room with.

[moionfire]

Did you mean black people?

I can count the number of times that Mad Men ever depicted Black people on one hand (OK, one hand and a fifth of another):

1. Sheila, the girlfriend that Paul Kinsey brought to a party to show folks how liberal he was.
2. Hollis, the elevator operator that Pete tries to strike up a conversation with a couple of times.
3. Carla, the housekeeper who had to put up with Betty's shit until she got fired.
4. Pete bringing up the idea of Sterling Cooper adding a new advertising demographic to their roster - the Negroes.
5. Toni, the Playboy bunny who Lane was taking up with until his father flew in from London to mollywhop his ass into reconciling with his wife.
6. Dawn, who Peggy wouldn't leave her belongings in the same room with.

Oops, that is what I meant. LOL. And I agree with you on your other points. Matt Weiner just wants to make a show about how white people changed during the 60's. He doesn't care about how blacks changed. He just hides behind the whole well the characters on the show wouldn't have extended relationships with black people anyways as a way to avoid having a full time character that actually has a back-story. He is a white liberal though and through...

[moionfire]

To be honest I wish Weiner never takes on the civil rights movement and black people. I don't think he can do it well...